1 00:00:04,789 --> 00:00:02,389 the station's robotic crew member 2 00:00:06,869 --> 00:00:04,799 robonaut's getting some upgrades today 3 00:00:08,549 --> 00:00:06,879 here to tell us more about what's taking 4 00:00:10,390 --> 00:00:08,559 place where we've come from and where 5 00:00:13,030 --> 00:00:10,400 we're going with the first humanoid 6 00:00:14,390 --> 00:00:13,040 robot in space uh dr ron diffler the 7 00:00:16,630 --> 00:00:14,400 principal investigator and the project 8 00:00:18,390 --> 00:00:16,640 manager for robonaut 2. ron first off 9 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:18,400 thanks so much for joining me today and 10 00:00:21,349 --> 00:00:19,680 if you could set the stage a little bit 11 00:00:22,950 --> 00:00:21,359 so robonaut's been on board for a few 12 00:00:24,310 --> 00:00:22,960 years what what's the work that's been 13 00:00:25,910 --> 00:00:24,320 going on what have you guys been doing 14 00:00:28,790 --> 00:00:25,920 with with it on board it's my pleasure 15 00:00:30,550 --> 00:00:28,800 to be here today dan um since we've had 16 00:00:32,310 --> 00:00:30,560 the robot on space station 17 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:32,320 after we completed our checkouts the 18 00:00:35,990 --> 00:00:33,760 first thing we did was we said hello to 19 00:00:37,590 --> 00:00:36,000 the world using american sign language 20 00:00:39,270 --> 00:00:37,600 moved on for some 21 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:39,280 crew interaction shaking hands with 22 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:41,760 commander dan bolden on dan 23 00:00:46,229 --> 00:00:43,680 burbank at the time 24 00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:46,239 since then we've been using the task 25 00:00:49,510 --> 00:00:48,239 board and trying out many of the 26 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:49,520 different things that we previously 27 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:51,840 tested on the ground working with knobs 28 00:00:57,029 --> 00:00:54,640 and switches buttons 29 00:00:59,110 --> 00:00:57,039 various other interfaces 30 00:01:01,270 --> 00:00:59,120 most recently we've moved on to working 31 00:01:03,189 --> 00:01:01,280 with tools and soft goods soft because 32 00:01:04,789 --> 00:01:03,199 being very important especially 33 00:01:07,270 --> 00:01:04,799 when the robot's ultimate goal is to 34 00:01:08,550 --> 00:01:07,280 work um eva working with soft goods or 35 00:01:10,230 --> 00:01:08,560 things you find throughout the space 36 00:01:13,190 --> 00:01:10,240 station those soft goods things like 37 00:01:15,030 --> 00:01:13,200 space blankets etc etc 38 00:01:17,030 --> 00:01:15,040 um our most recent activity was working 39 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:17,040 with tele operation that is one of the 40 00:01:20,950 --> 00:01:18,880 astronauts tom marshburn put on a 41 00:01:22,710 --> 00:01:20,960 collection of virtual reality gear and 42 00:01:25,030 --> 00:01:22,720 controlled the robot inside the station 43 00:01:26,710 --> 00:01:25,040 simulating it as if we were outside and 44 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:26,720 he caught our first free-floating object 45 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:28,400 which is very exciting to us 46 00:01:32,230 --> 00:01:30,400 so kind of like the world's coolest 47 00:01:34,950 --> 00:01:32,240 video game taking place in space right 48 00:01:37,109 --> 00:01:34,960 now absolutely so and 49 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:37,119 obviously robonaut 50 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:39,439 created to be kind of a another set of 51 00:01:43,270 --> 00:01:41,040 helping hands to the astronauts on board 52 00:01:44,710 --> 00:01:43,280 the station and 53 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:44,720 it needs more than just hands and needs 54 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:46,000 some legs too so you guys have been 55 00:01:50,069 --> 00:01:47,520 developing these climbing legs for the 56 00:01:51,510 --> 00:01:50,079 robot absolutely um you can only do so 57 00:01:52,870 --> 00:01:51,520 much if you're fixed on a stanchion 58 00:01:55,030 --> 00:01:52,880 which is what we've been on for the last 59 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:55,040 couple of years with the addition of 60 00:01:59,030 --> 00:01:56,880 legs we'll be able to go mobile matter 61 00:02:00,950 --> 00:01:59,040 of fact here you can see in the video 62 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:00,960 this is our ground unit for robonaut 63 00:02:05,109 --> 00:02:02,799 actually our certification ground unit 64 00:02:07,670 --> 00:02:05,119 and there it is practicing climbing and 65 00:02:09,109 --> 00:02:07,680 in this case we took a truss system put 66 00:02:10,869 --> 00:02:09,119 it on our air bearing floor which is 67 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:10,879 kind of like an air hockey table except 68 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:13,120 in reverse the um the whatever is 69 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:14,560 floating on top of it's emitting a thin 70 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:16,800 layer of air so it can float 71 00:02:21,190 --> 00:02:19,200 we are using our grippers to then move 72 00:02:23,030 --> 00:02:21,200 that back and forth simulating as if the 73 00:02:24,949 --> 00:02:23,040 actual robot works climbing through the 74 00:02:26,550 --> 00:02:24,959 station and we've had very good results 75 00:02:28,710 --> 00:02:26,560 with that as you can even see during 76 00:02:31,190 --> 00:02:28,720 this video so they definitely don't look 77 00:02:32,949 --> 00:02:31,200 like traditional legs so while the upper 78 00:02:34,949 --> 00:02:32,959 body does have a lot of resemblance to a 79 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:34,959 human because we do a lot of human-like 80 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:36,400 motions with the upper body performing 81 00:02:40,309 --> 00:02:38,800 human-like tasks well in space you don't 82 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:40,319 use your human legs the way you would 83 00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:41,680 use them on the ground that's right so 84 00:02:45,030 --> 00:02:43,519 we were not as it um 85 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:45,040 we were not we didn't adhere to the 86 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:47,040 human form when it didn't make any sense 87 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:49,120 in the case of space you want legs that 88 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:50,400 are going to give you more of a climbing 89 00:02:54,630 --> 00:02:52,560 capability than a walking capability so 90 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:54,640 they're longer legs with more 91 00:02:58,710 --> 00:02:56,640 degrees of freedom greater flexibility 92 00:03:00,790 --> 00:02:58,720 for us to be able to reach from one hand 93 00:03:02,309 --> 00:03:00,800 rail to another and over maybe a little 94 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:02,319 bit larger distances than you might 95 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:04,560 normally expect okay now the legs have 96 00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:06,239 been up there for a couple of months now 97 00:03:09,509 --> 00:03:07,760 but we can't just throw them on we have 98 00:03:10,630 --> 00:03:09,519 to get robonaut ready first so what are 99 00:03:12,229 --> 00:03:10,640 some of the upgrades that have been 100 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:12,239 taking place and what are some of the 101 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:14,400 upgrades that are taking place this week 102 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:16,560 so um a few weeks ago we finished the 103 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:18,560 upgrades to the torso 104 00:03:23,430 --> 00:03:20,560 when robotic was originally built we did 105 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:23,440 not have legs in mind 106 00:03:27,350 --> 00:03:25,680 so we had to go inside and increase and 107 00:03:30,789 --> 00:03:27,360 modify the infrastructure to support 108 00:03:32,470 --> 00:03:30,799 lake support all the wiring we also 109 00:03:34,309 --> 00:03:32,480 replaced our computer system because now 110 00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:34,319 we have more joints to control so we 111 00:03:38,309 --> 00:03:36,239 need more computer power 112 00:03:39,670 --> 00:03:38,319 we made all those changes and actually 113 00:03:41,589 --> 00:03:39,680 here you can also see an additional 114 00:03:43,670 --> 00:03:41,599 change we made on the robot which was we 115 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:43,680 upgraded the helmet we learned on the 116 00:03:46,869 --> 00:03:45,360 ground that there were ways to improve 117 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:46,879 our vision system by making 118 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:48,640 modifications to the helmet so we 119 00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:50,560 included that as part of the upgrades to 120 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:52,239 increase our overall capability doing a 121 00:03:55,670 --> 00:03:53,680 little brain surgery that's right 122 00:03:58,949 --> 00:03:55,680 there's astronaut steve swanson making 123 00:04:02,070 --> 00:03:58,959 modifications to the helmet 124 00:04:04,869 --> 00:04:02,080 so um we upgraded the body 125 00:04:06,390 --> 00:04:04,879 put all the all the latch all the hooks 126 00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:06,400 we needed so that when we attach the 127 00:04:11,589 --> 00:04:09,439 legs we can connect everything together 128 00:04:13,429 --> 00:04:11,599 here you see the legs they were sent up 129 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:13,439 folded up and they actually have 130 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:15,760 handrails our protocol on space station 131 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:18,560 is that one leg must always be engaged 132 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:20,320 no free floating robots on inside the 133 00:04:23,749 --> 00:04:22,400 space station so you see two handrails 134 00:04:26,950 --> 00:04:23,759 that will be used in part of the 135 00:04:29,189 --> 00:04:26,960 assembly process so we will on 136 00:04:30,150 --> 00:04:29,199 astronaut steve swanson will unfold the 137 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:30,160 legs 138 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:33,120 and then remove the up the body from its 139 00:04:37,670 --> 00:04:35,759 stanchion and attach those to the top of 140 00:04:39,189 --> 00:04:37,680 the legs basically put the bottom half 141 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:39,199 and the top half together to give us a 142 00:04:42,469 --> 00:04:41,440 full-size robot inside the space station 143 00:04:44,629 --> 00:04:42,479 okay 144 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:44,639 and i think we have some more images uh 145 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:46,160 so you mentioned it's been on a 146 00:04:50,230 --> 00:04:48,160 stanchion a lot and i think we have 147 00:04:51,430 --> 00:04:50,240 another picture um so what so what are 148 00:04:52,629 --> 00:04:51,440 we looking at right here that's the 149 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:52,639 interface 150 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:54,479 at the top of the legs that will mate 151 00:04:58,469 --> 00:04:56,639 with a matching interface that we 152 00:05:00,390 --> 00:04:58,479 recently installed with the torso 153 00:05:01,590 --> 00:05:00,400 upgrades and the two can be put together 154 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:01,600 and there you can actually see some 155 00:05:05,029 --> 00:05:03,520 guide pins there and when it's all put 156 00:05:06,629 --> 00:05:05,039 together it'll look just like that 157 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:06,639 certification robot we have on the 158 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:08,960 ground and be able to start moving 159 00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:11,440 between handrail to hand rail which is 160 00:05:14,469 --> 00:05:12,800 one of the ways we'll move on the inside 161 00:05:15,990 --> 00:05:14,479 of the space station and it won't have 162 00:05:17,590 --> 00:05:16,000 to worry about those straps either 163 00:05:19,029 --> 00:05:17,600 because it's right you don't need the 164 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:19,039 straps in space since you'll be able to 165 00:05:23,350 --> 00:05:20,880 uh there'll be no gravity and you'll be 166 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:23,360 essentially weightless so when are you 167 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:24,960 guys expecting what are you hoping to 168 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:26,880 get the legs attached uh currently we're 169 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:28,880 doing some preparation work both today 170 00:05:33,189 --> 00:05:31,120 and tomorrow our goal is to attach the 171 00:05:35,189 --> 00:05:33,199 legs on thursday and then button 172 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:35,199 everything up on friday and then we'll 173 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:36,720 do what we call a power soap we just 174 00:05:39,830 --> 00:05:38,160 turn on electronics and make sure 175 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:39,840 everything is behaving the way we expect 176 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:41,840 it to yep 177 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:42,800 and then 178 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:44,720 once that's out of the way 179 00:05:48,629 --> 00:05:46,320 first steps one 180 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:48,639 well there'll be a couple of more 181 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:51,120 stages between now and first steps we 182 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:52,400 have to be sure that 183 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:54,240 all these things been put together are 184 00:05:57,830 --> 00:05:56,000 checked out properly so we'll have more 185 00:06:00,469 --> 00:05:57,840 or less the equivalent of stretching 186 00:06:02,469 --> 00:06:00,479 over the next two activities we have on 187 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:02,479 space station and then in the november 188 00:06:05,909 --> 00:06:04,080 december time frame we will take our 189 00:06:07,189 --> 00:06:05,919 first step and go from one of our 190 00:06:09,510 --> 00:06:07,199 handrails that we're currently mounted 191 00:06:12,390 --> 00:06:09,520 to to a next to the next handrail and 192 00:06:14,230 --> 00:06:12,400 then just to close us out big picture 193 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:14,240 once robonaut's mobile what what are you 194 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:15,680 guys really hoping that it's going to be 195 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,080 able to accomplish well we have put the 196 00:06:22,790 --> 00:06:20,400 robot in the best laboratory anywhere 197 00:06:24,710 --> 00:06:22,800 for preparing ourselves for eventual eva 198 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:24,720 activities space walking space climbing 199 00:06:28,870 --> 00:06:26,560 type of activities so we're going to use 200 00:06:30,950 --> 00:06:28,880 the space station as a laboratory for 201 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:30,960 climbing and learn all about 202 00:06:35,189 --> 00:06:33,120 climbing inside the space station where 203 00:06:37,670 --> 00:06:35,199 we have the advantage as we're learning 204 00:06:39,749 --> 00:06:37,680 things if some issues come up the crew's 205 00:06:41,029 --> 00:06:39,759 there to help us and as opposed to being 206 00:06:42,950 --> 00:06:41,039 on the outside of station where if 207 00:06:44,469 --> 00:06:42,960 you're learning things there's there are 208 00:06:46,309 --> 00:06:44,479 a lot more consequences to what's going 209 00:06:47,510 --> 00:06:46,319 on so that'll be the great laboratory 210 00:06:49,189 --> 00:06:47,520 for us to develop our climbing 211 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:49,199 capabilities so that when we have a 212 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:50,880 robot on the outside space station we're 213 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:52,160 well prepared 214 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:54,160 all right well exciting time for 215 00:06:58,469 --> 00:06:56,160 robonaut on board the station getting 216 00:07:00,309 --> 00:06:58,479 ready to get those legs on and not too 217 00:07:02,150 --> 00:07:00,319 distant future takes those first steps 218 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:02,160 really exciting stuff dr ron diffler 219 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:04,400 again project manager for robonaut 220 00:07:07,670 --> 00:07:06,000 thanks so much for joining me today here 221 00:07:10,309 --> 00:07:07,680 inside the control room giving us an